Information you need to know before they destroy your family.
Greene County, PA. Is anyone else looking for help because of a legitimate complaint against CYS? My friend was given a false-positive, twice, by their “instant” tests. The proper five minutes was not given and when a “ghost line” appeared they threw it in the trash- even claiming she tampered with it. The second time she went to Med-Express to prove them wrong. Despite the negative test they wrecked her life for the past year and her abusive ex took full advantage of the situation.
https://wehavekids.com/parenting/InsideCPS This article is about things you should know about Children and Youth Services.
It is time to stop the abuse of our families. File Civil Rights Discrimination Complaints through OCR; the Department of Health and Human Services. Write the president, the state governor, the senators and the anyone else in authority if your complaint is severe enough.
**Group together with other victims. Hire a personal injury or Civil Rights lawyer. Better yet, do it as a group.
**If you test positive for drugs with their instant thirty-second tests see the manufactuers training video that clearly states 3-5 minutes is required and ANY line counts even a “ghost line.” Write the company of the misuse of their products. Ask for the container…it is only your life they just threw in the garbage. Force them to stay in the room five full minutes.
According to the booklet written by the US Department of Health and Human Services Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration on page 10 “Point-of-collection tests are screening tests conducted in the field at such locations as treatment facilities, child welfare offices, and courts. Field tests should be confirmed by a laboratory.” AND “If the results are to be used in court proceedings for purposes other than monitoring case progress, agencies should have the specimen confirmed using a laboratory test or procedure.” AND “Laboratory tests usually involve two phases—an instrumented screening test and a confirmatory test. The screening test can detect the presence of a substance, but the quantitative confirmatory test distinguishes the presence of a specific drug and/ or metabolite in the presence of other various drugs and determines the drug’s concentration. Screening tests are used initially to determine if a confirmatory test should be conducted. Laboratories use confirmatory tests to clearly identify the drugs that are present. Details on the types of tests conducted for screening and confirmatory testing and common terminology and acronyms used in these processes are often found on laboratory test reports.” I added the bold italics.
With four witnesses present, three comparing their negative tests (yes, they tested three other people not living in the household and one was male!) to the obvious negative (but ironically completely CYS positive test) you can demand a retest all day. You can ask for the results to be lab tested, and ask for a blood test until you turn purple. Apparently at Greene county these people are gods. Suggesting a retest on the spot was fruitless. All we got was, “Our tests are one hundred percent accurate. I am not retesting. It is not necessary.” Yah, walked right off with her nose in the air. From May 4, 2019 to July 9, 2019 my friend has yet to see her son and the ex is using this test as an excuse to not give her child to her now that she is the legal summer custodial parent. This caseworker was pleaded with and begged to retest because we all knew the test was being read incorrectly. There was no difference in my friends’ test than my own result and I was completely confused. I am well-educated now!
Premier is the brand of cup used by Greene County CYS in this case. We know, it was left in the garbage, because CYS refused to due any further testing. The company itself states in their FAQ :
Why does the Burpenorphine (BUP) strip take longer to develop than other drug test strips? And, why does the BUP line look less intense (lighter line) than other drug test strips?
The Premier Bio-Cup is testing for BUP at 5ng/mL. Because we are testing at such a sensitive level, which studies indicate is necessary to effectively detect BUP use, the test chemistry takes a bit longer than other test lines to form and tends to form a lighter line because of the low cut-off level. It is very important to remember that it is completely normal for the BUP line to take longer to form and be less intense (lighter) than the surrounding test strips. Make sure to wait the full 5 minutes before calling a BUP line positive. “
***Read that last line again….”wait the full 5 minutes.”****
“What are the differences between screening VS. confirmation
Screening refers to a preliminary test that yields a qualitative “Positive or Negative” result. Screening can be conducted with a rapid test or using laboratory instrumentation (EIA, EMIT). Both rapid tests and lab screens use the same testing technology, called immunoassay technology. Screening technology is non-specific in that it does not differentiate among the drug class. For example, a positive OPIATE result only indicates that there is some opiate present. It does not indicate whether it is hydrocodone (vicodin), codeine (tylenol 3), heroin, or a combination of these.
Confirmation testing utilizes high complexity instrumentation that yields a definite and specific result. Best practice for confirmation testing involves using either a GC/MS or LC-MS/MS. The results of a confirmation test provide an absolute and definite result that indicates the specific drug/compound present in the urine or oral fluid sample. Premier Biotech utilizes all LC-MS/MS instrumentation for confirmation testing which is considered to be the platinum standard. LC-MS/MS results are defensible in court.”
“Why do some test (T) lines appear more faint than others?
The presence of a line, regardless of its intensity, is to be read as a NEGATIVE result. Because of the chemical composition of certain drugs and metabolites along with the test strip chemistry, variation in cut-off levels for each drug, and expected variation in human donor specimen, it is normal for some lines to appear more intense (darker) than others. Any shade of color in the test (T) region should be considered a NEGATIVE result.
The very first test my friend took had a line so feint under a minute the worker reading the test said according to a witness, “This is so feint I don’t know what to do with this. There is barely anything here at all.” They counted it as a positive and ruined my friend’s life; taking away her chances of getting custody of her son. CYS will not tell you, you can go to Med-Exress or the local hospital to prove reasonable doubt when you get a negative from that source.” Quote end.
**Go to the local Med-Express, hospital, or clinic nearest you and get the supervised negative you know you should have. It will cost a hundred-and twenty dollars. It will be the most embarrassing test you ever take as they watch you piss in a cup with their face almost pressed against your thigh.
Greene County CYS will tell you to your face their tests are 100 percent accurate and Med-Express 10 panel observed tests are inferiuor and will not hold up in court against their tests. Want to bet. CYS is using a screening not a confirmation- which is what holds up in court- not the screening. They have to have the confirmation testing done to hold this up in court and do not let them bully you into submitting to their whimsy.
This is how the Premier Test was done to four people by a CYS caseworker at the home of my friend on a Saturday in 2019. 1.Take urine sample with lid barely on; read before person is off the toilet the result. 2. If the result is not negative in under thirty seconds it has to be positive. Call in immediately to declare the results. 3. Walk back in to see person pointing at lines and get pissed off at them, declaring hotly they tampered with the test. 4. Refuse to recant and destroy this woman’s life for exposing your mistake. Yah, that just happened and the “guilty” woman’s psychotic x-husband who has threatened to kill her; refuses to allow her to see her son as punishment for being a “drug addict” and now has a new way to torture her.
It is not likely CYS will retest or veto their decision based on the negative test results you produce from an outside drug testing facility. They will refuse to send your urine sample to the laboratory because getting the result tested accurately is too expensive. -Oh, yes, they did say that. – They will not do a blood test. They will not do a hair sample. They will refuse to retest in front of your family even while the family is pointing at an obvious negative test result. Four witnesses… and the female worker still refused!-Oh, yes, she did. Not only will they do all the above they will write down on the paperwork exactly what drugs you are on, like Ecstasy, which looks even more damning before a judge. To a judge would not reading the names of drugs make it appear they actually sent the test in- when they did not.
You will be told to bring your witnesses and file a complaint- if you are lucky enough to have any. But wait…. no… they want just you in the office and tell you they will contact your witnesses. Not one person will get a phone call. It gets better, you will discover the person taking your complaint has the same last name as the person you are filing the complaint against. So, how is that not a conflict of interest?
**By the way, if CYS shows up at your door, before you take their test, be sure to get witnesses. Get your friends to hear and testify everything they say. You have the right to a witness. If they deny you the right then call the police and ask for an officer to stand in. If you do not; it is your word against theirs and even then…with four witnesses…you stand a snowball’s chance in the microwave of being able to do a thing about it. Hence, the reason I wrote this blog and writing other offices about this situation.
If an employer pulled this stunt they could be sued, made to repay back wages and the employee given their job back. An employer has to send a positive in for further confirmation to cover their backsides. So why does CYS get away with this? Because the general public does not know? Well, they do now, and guess what, their backsides are not covered anymore.
Supposedly, the CYS urine tests are so accurate it tells them, excactly, by name, what drugs you are supposedly on. They have super tests, apparantly, and their word is absolute gold! The tests are never wrong. When they hang you with their positive so they have job security, and take your children away from you, there should be a labratory involved, don’t you think?
It is so expensive to send positives in for lab testing, but, my friend was pushed through a drug and alcohol program, forced to take a psyche evaluation- oh, yes they did!- and given more pee tests. She was denied seeing her son by a gloating ex who cruelly spent months telling the child his mother was a drug addict. He told everyone else who would listen, too. Destroying her reputation as a good mother and a good person. After all, it has to be the truth because CYS could never be wrong, now could they? Emotionally and psychologically my friend is scarred for life.
The ex made sure she did not get any holidays with her son and had her son call for under two minutes to say, “Mom, you need to get help,” for Mother’s Day. The entire family has missed the child’s presence, especially on trips and family gatherings.
The heartlessness of CYS has cost my friend two thousand dollars in court fees. Every test she took, properly administered by the court appointed counselor, was negative! because they waited the full five minutes. It was cheaper to do all this to my friend than to send the drug results out for testing???
CYS will threaten the next positive will take your rights away as a parent forever. Wonder how Med-Express feels about their test being inferior to a test done in thirty-seconds? Yah, the test results are in before the lid is on according to CYS. Saw it done. The test, itself, was correct, only the lines showed up three minutes after the worker stepped out – on my friend’s test- as a negative. (Too late, as the worker already called in the results, elated she had a real druggie on her plate! Yah, neat as a pin house, fat healthy animals, food in the cupboards, child bathed and fed with breakfast still on the plate. Yard mowed and clutter free. Yah, real drug house thing going on there. )
It is the morons reading the test wrong who are messing up my friend’s life. I want everyone who has to deal with these uneducated, heartless, over-opinionated, self-righteous group of gods to know they can fight. Just because CYS has the general public hood-winked into believing CYS is immune to retribution- they are not. Do not give up and speak out for everyone’s sake. What they are doing to one they are doing to others.
**File complaints. Group together. Force the laws to be upheld. We are losing our families and we will never get back the time with our missing children. Pass this on to a friend in need of the the knowledge we ourselves learned today. I know my friend can not be the only one out there dealing with this.
**To get funding for your fight use a Go Fund Me. Yard sale. Sell items off. Mow lawns. Ask friends and family. Do not let pride step in your way of getting your child back and CYS out.
I wish there was a magic wand to take away my friend’s tears, her emotional scars and the deep ache a mother has for a stolen child. I wish there was a way to repay the people responsible for this outrage. As I find the answers you can sure bet I will be posting them here for the whole world to see.
No one should have their lives destroyed and ruined by another. We all have the right to happiness and joy- especially our children. Tonight there is a ten-year old child looking up at the stars wondering why they can not be with the mother they love and cherish.
Another unreplacable night with a missing child.
Try classaction website searches. https://www.bigclassaction.com
Read other drug test manufacturers material:
http://www.wellnesscourts.org/files/NDCI%20Benchbook%20Chapter%206.pdf Page 123 again confirms the “screening” urine test with the “confirmations” lab testing.
• Instant results, reads negatives within 1 minute & positives in 5 minutes
This is qouted right out of the 16 panel test instruction phamplet.
“LIMITATIONS 1. Drug Tests (Strip/Card/Device/Cup) provides only a qualitative, preliminary testing result. A more specific testing method must be used in order to obtain a confirmed testing result. Gas Chromatography/Mass Spectrometry (GC/MS) is the preferred confirmatory method. 2. There is a possibility that technical or procedural errors, as well as other interfering substances in the urine specimen may cause erroneous results. 3. Adulterants such as bleach or other oxidizing agents may produce erroneous results. If suspected, the test should be repeated with a fresh specimen and a new drug tests. 4. The urine specimens with bacterial contamination should not be used for testing, as these contaminations may interfere with the test and cause false results. 5. A positive result does not indicate the level of intoxication, the route of the drug administration or the concentration of the drug in the urine. 6. A negative result may not necessarily indicate drug-free urine. Negative results can be obtained when drug is present but below the cut-off level of test. 7. Test does not distinguish between drugs of abuse and certain medications. 8. Certain foods or food supplements may cause a false positive result. “
**Research what will cause false positive drug tests, including normal body chemestry.
**Does any of medications causing a false-positive apply to your situation. In my friend’s case she was fighting a cold the first time tested and was taking five medications known to kick-out a false positive. (CYS refused to send results in for lab testing and judge tarred and feathered her when they listed all the “drugs” in her system.) Small consolation for the twelve weeks she spent without her child and everything the courts and CYS forced her to do. To come in and test her incorrectly a second time is the absolute last straw! We are going to fight. Maybe she will lose her son’s childhood years but perhaps all this will save someone else from having to suffer in the future.
“More than 250 over the counter or prescription drugs can cause you to test positive on a drug test.”
“A small fraction of the population excrete large amounts of endogenons lysozyme or malate dehydrogenase in their urine which can produce a positive drug test. “
https://sciex.com/Documents/brochures/4500_workhorse_brochure.pdf is a link to what an LC-MS/MS testing machine is.
PA CYS handbook https://www.childwelfare.gov/pubPDFs/cps.pdf
This is for Erie PA but might help https://www.eriecountypa.gov/media/228545/a-parents-handbook-9-08-updated-and-revised-october-2013.pdf
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2008/11/25/E8-26726/mandatory-guidelines-for-federal-workplace-drug-testing-programs These are the federal guidelines . “The confirmatory drug test used by the laboratory must satisfy the requirements in Section 11.13, the laboratory must validate the confirmatory drug test in accordance with the requirements in Section 11.14, and must satisfy the quality control requirements as stated in Section 11.15. The Department believes that testing the specimen twice using a validated confirmatory drug test is scientifically and forensically acceptable.”
I am posting this site, ironically, because we learned someone was using fake pee to pass his drug tests from CYS. Interestingly the reason the worker stated my friend tampered with her test was because the urine had bubbles in it. According to this site the bubbles mean it is human urine because the protein causes bubbles when it is agitated. Fake pee will not bubble.
If so much care is given to provide a fair chance and accuracy to a government employee, why has the government services failed so badly in the protection of vulnerable citizens, such as single mothers with abusive x-spouses? Is that not the purpose of a tax-paid agency- to protect the public’s rights and well-being, or is ramming them through a thirty-second pee test and declaring positives on witnessed negative tests job security? I am one mad protective person of my family and my family has been done wrong. Absolutely done wrong. CYS needs to be retrained and given a heart, because it is a stone cold, don’t give a crap about you or your kids, kind of place right now.